“The Lowdown” Star Ethan Hawke Hilary Swank on Having Kids in Her 40’s and 50’s

"The Lowdown" Star Ethan Hawke

Hilary Swank on Having Kids in Her 40's and 50's
Air Date: Friday, October 16^th

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Hilary Swank on Having Kids in Her 40's and 50's

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Hilary: There's a lot of backlash women get for having children older but not men, which is interesting.

Drew: Oh my god I mean it is weird men have babies in their like eighties and that's not a euphemism or a joke. You had kids in your forties and people weren't always gracious about it.

Hilary: Yeah. There's one story that I found really interesting and I think I was attracted to this particular story because this one woman said, 'How dare you. You're too old and you won't be old enough when your kids are older and my dad was my favorite person and he died when I was in my twenties, my early twenties and it's just devastation' and I related to it because my dad is also passed but he was one of my favorite people on earth and so I was drawn to that and I thought to myself well I would rather be born and have that person that was my favorite person and experience that than not at all. Do you know what I'm saying? So that's how I took what she said.

Ethan Hawke is Surprised He and Drew Never Dated and Thought He Would See Her at Parties in the 90's

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Ethan: Well, you said this very nice thing about me in the introduction, but the truth of the matter is I don't think I can remember a time in my life when I was not aware of you.

Drew: That's how I feel about you.

Ethan: Yeah, I can't, what I can't believe is that we never dated, you know, I mean.

Drew: Where were you?

Ethan: I can't say.

Drew: Where were you, Ethan? And by the way, what me and every other girl on the planet wouldn't have given to date you, where the hell were you?

Ethan: I can't say there was many a night when I went, like, it was to be circa the 90s where I would be going to a party and I'd think 'Maybe Drew will be there.'

Drew: Why didn't you call me? We still had phones back then.

Ethan: I don't know. You know, I like to play it cool. I wanted it to happen organically, you know. I thought, you know, something magic would happen.

Drew: And look what happened, nothing

Ethan: Now we're meeting in a talk show.

Drew: Yeah, well, whatever it takes.

Ethan: But we're still meeting.

Ethan on Walking His Daughter Maya Down the Aisle and Staying in the Present

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Ethan: Going backwards, you don't want to go backwards. The truth of the matter is, I was so insecure. I was so nervous. I don't wanna go backwards. I like, I've never been where I am now. You know, I got to walk my daughter down the aisle this year. You know, that's something like, you don't, there's all these things that are happening that you don't anticipate. There's so much new that's happening, and when you go backwards, you, there's nothing new there.

Drew: I wouldn't want to go back for anything in the world because I wasn't as capable as I am now.

Ethan on Feeling Like "Dead Poet's Society" Group Became Famous Together

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Drew: OK, knock me out 'Dead Poets Society.'

Ethan: I sound my barbaric yap over the rooftops of the world.

Drew: Carpe diem.

Ethan: Yeah, there you go.

Drew: What memory comes to your mind when I say 'Dead Poets Society?'

Ethan: I had an experience that's different than yours that was really helpful, which was when I first experienced celebrity. I did it with a group of young people, a group. I was, I wasn't Ethan Hawke, I was one of the dead poets. Oh, he's one of the kids from 'Dead Poets Society' you know, and so I didn't, fame didn't have a personal attachment, it was represented by this movie and so it, it, it wasn't as confusing as when it's like you're amazing, you know, it was very much 'Dead Poets Society' is amazing. And, so I remember those young men, the whole gang, obviously there was Robin Williams and obviously there was Peter Weir, this genius director, but they were mentors and they were leaders and they were great artistic craftsmen. But the young people I was with, living in the hotel, running lines, coming up with those characters, you know, that's what I remember.

Drew: Thank you for putting that into the world. And by the way, we have a clip because Emily Curl from 'Entertainment Tonight' was here and you know they've got that vault that rivals the television and radio museum, will you take a look at this?

Ethan:…I mean, the kid has soul, but the kid was very nervous.

Ethan on Full Circle Moment with Winona Ryder Co-Starring with Daughter Maya

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Drew: I mean she was also the thing.

Ethan: She was the thing for a long time. 'Beetlejuice' 'Heathers.' I know, now 'Stranger Things.'

Drew: I mean the full circle of Maya, your daughter, doing 'Stranger Things' with Winona.

Ethan: That's pretty cool, isn't it? I mean, how crazy is that? That's when the universe feels really mysterious, But, you know, when I want to help, that's Maya's big break is that show, right?

Drew: Is it true that people come and trick or treat at your door and they show up dressed as your daughter in 'Stranger Things?'

Ethan: That's one of the more surreal experiences in a man's life to be out there giving candy out and see all these little Robins, all these little girls dressed like my daughter. But I have to admit I was, that made me really proud. That was really cool.

Ethan on He and Julie Delpy's Influence on "Before Sunrise" Characters

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Drew: You put three movies into the world that all belong in a trilogy, if you will, 'Before Sunrise, Sunset, Midnight' these are films that mean so much to people, there's almost an indignance about it. It's strange how people react about those movies. Why do you think that is?
Ethan: Alright, the real answer I think is because a lot of romances, they either have a male point of view or they have a female point of view. You hear this thing the male gaze, the female gaze, whatever it is. But because Richard Linklater asked Julie and I to help him write the movies, he kind of, he's a brilliant director and he was kind of the scientist on set, he was encouraging Julie and I to create our characters and write our characters and he kind of played the role of a good scientist which is to study. And so the movies don't have a male gaze, and the movies don't have a female gaze, it's Julie and I fighting, well my character would think this, and my character would think that, and because of that I think men can watch it and feel like it's not some weepy, you know it's a movie that my wife is making me watch or something like that, they feel seen and women feel seen too.
Drew: Yeah.
Ethan: Julie's character is incredibly strong and three dimensional and fully formed and I think that's, if I had to say, I put some thought into it because people ask me about it a lot.
Drew: Yeah.
Ethan: And I love those movies because of that.

Ethan on Watching "Boyhood" Again for Anniversary

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Drew: Okay, Richard Linklater, again 'Boyhood' one of the most unique films ever made, nothing like it, there's that documentary -
Ethan: Yeah, Seven Up.
Drew: Yeah, sees people over time but there's no film narrative that - there's a moment in this film that just messes me up so much.
Ethan: What is it?
Drew: It's when you turn to her and say you were a good mom.
Ethan: Yeah.
Drew: It's a good moment. It's what every mother lives to hear and hopes you know that they'll measure up in someone's eyes.
Ethan: Well it's a beautiful moment in the movie and it's really a hard thing about parenting, because if you're doing it right, it's just not about you, and it forces the ego to recede. We shot it over 12 years, and we had the twelfth anniversary screening, so I just watched it for the first time. The thing that's so amazing about - there's a final moment where it's my character and we had split up when the kids were young and I come back and I tell her that, and you realize how much of relationships and life are timing, you know these two people actually would have been wonderful for each other if he wasn't such a loser when he was 25. And if she could have been more forgiving, or if he could have grown up a little faster, you know and they have these - but they did their best.
Drew: Yup.
Ethan: And there is time to heal any mistake, you know. There is no obstacle enough love cannot move. You know that was something my grandfather, I think, said that to me, he's like, you just, anything can be forgiven.

Ethan and Drew on Working with Tommy Lee Jones

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Drew: The 'Lowdown' you are working with Tommy Lee Jones, by the way, I got to work with him once he's serious. He's very serious. I got to do 'Batman Forever' which was not a serious movie, and it was him and Jim Carrey in the makeup trailer, and boy were they different, and Tommy played Tommy Two-faced and then me and Debi Mazar were his little like harlots, sugar and spice, and I, the whole time I worked with him I did not get to know him. He is very stoic, and to these stoic men, a la Clint Eastwood, who I've had this situation, Tommy Lee Jones, I am just not their cup of tea. I'm too jubilant and effervescent and buoyant and valley girlish and excitable, and like they're just like, and I kind of love it because I'm like I get it. So what is Tommy Lee Jones like with you?

Ethan: Well, he feels a little bit like he's stepped out of the Bible, you know, like Abraham. You know, like boom boom, I am your father. You know, he's very intimidating. Yeah, he plays my father, you know, I was born in Austin, Texas. As a kid, that he is the great Texan actor, right? Like when you're growing up thinking about 'Lonesome Dove' I mean, I just, I grew up on Tommy Lee Jones. So to have him playing my father felt very powerful to me. And he also is, stoic as he is, he is incredibly intelligent. And, you know, he was an All-American on the Harvard football team. He was roommates with Al Gore. He's sailed the world. He's had a huge, big life.

And so he was, for this show, I'm playing a bookstore owner and he's my father and he just makes perfect sense for the show. And what I love about him in this particular show, 'The Lowdown' is he's not just making an appearance. If you see the show, he gives an incredible performance.

Drew: He makes an impact.

Ethan: It's a huge impact. And he's great in the show.